AA1 RAM: Any reason I shouldn't replace w/ 2GB stick?

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    soccerballtux

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    Replacing the 1GB stick with a 2GB stick would save on power (ever so slightly).
     
    soccerballtux, Aug 6, 2009
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    Can you confirm this? I can only imagine that more RAM will provide you less HDD activity but haven´t measured this.
     
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    To get less HDD activity AND improve your performance
    Plus Netbooks use dynamic video memory technology
    the more ram you have the better the video performance!
    in other words if your App or Game needs more video ram it will be able to have it!

    Install 2gig
    Disable swap file
    Core the os.
    it will be Faster.
    And use Less power!
     
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    "Core the OS"?
    I'll be putting Win 7 on. By core do you mean uninstall unneeded stuff?

    Felix-- it would depend on the chips used. My guess is they use less dense chips for 1GB modules, but the same number.
    2GB modules would have the same number of, but denser, chips, perhaps a smaller process tech (say 65nm vs 90nm) too.
     
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    NO Swap file windows and all apps will load to True ram
     
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    ..and fail miserably if trying to allocate even a byte more than physical memory size.

    The swap file will not be used unless necessary. Having a swap file will not degrade the performance, but it will allow you to run more stuff than you can without.
    I suggest you leave the swap file on.
     
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    soccerballtux

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    Why won't it accept more than 2GB of RAM total? Is this a BIOS limitation?
     
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    radioman193

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    yah
    Come on Dude.......

    That is like telling People that the Earth is Flat or the earth Dont rotate around the sun.
    WRONG!
    your Page file is in use All the time.
    "Having a swap file WILL degrade your system performance"
    how can you say this when even a "Retard" knows that a Hard drive has SLOWER access times than the speed of your system buss and Ram!

    with a Pagefile
    #1 your system needs to first read the file off the HD.
    #2 your system uses the file then if the "file"Program is not in focus or idle it writes it to the Pagefile
    #3 when you go back to the Program it Reads the file BACK to ram untill the next time the "file" program is idle again.

    so in doing this you get a fragmented Pagefile
    Slower system performance cause now the system needs to keep updateing the file to ram and its .Ini or configuration
    as the Pagefile gets more fragmented it takes longer to read the file from pagefile "all of its parts".

    And if you use a SOLID STATE Hard drive or a SSD A pagefile will just Will kill it fast !!!
    Reliability

    There is no question that solid state drives are much more robust than a standard hard drive. They have approximately 6X the shock resistance and a 20% improvement in temperature range. On the other hand, while the drives are more robust, the underlying technology still has limitations. Inside the drive the NAND technology has a 100,000 erase cycle lifetime for a single level cell or 10,000 erase cycle lifetime for a multi-level cell. Multi-level cells are used to increase capacity.

    User and operating system scenarios exceed program lifecycles of the technology. Things like swap file usage or even a user defragmenting a disk add write cycles which can cause premature wear. This can be mitigated by wear-leveling algorithms which spread out usage across the memory cells.


    Its just well known logical facts.
    think about this for a minut or two

    Why Does a windows Computer slow to a crawl and or crash if you were to power it on and Never reboot it ???
    Hmmmmmmm



    BenchMark your pc with and without! you WILL see.
    I dont know about you But i use the Acer EVERY day In place of my old desktop A64 3.2Ghz for now.
    I got 2 gigs of ram and run more stuff than most would EVER do on a netbook
    I have "like in all My Pc's here at the shop NO Pagefile" i have ben doing this for YEARS I Never use a Page file "unless i just dont have the ram".

    You are Crazy if you can tell ........No if you beleve that "The swap file will not be used unless necessary" you need to get to know what your hardware and software are doing you will see.



    DONT Just go by what you read on line only!
    I have ben working on computers from 1984 up to this day ........ WAY to long to fall for that .

    Example:
    With this Acer:

    I rip dvd's
    Convert movie formats to Divx and Xvid
    Host a Website
    run a Http server
    Run a Ftp server
    its connected to the Main home stereo for music.
    its connected to 3 Tv's for movies
    i use it with my watcom c compiler to to write some software for frends and family members.
    i use it for field testing wifi projects
    I use it for running my LPFM radiostation *102.5 fm @500 watt full dsp stereo
    i use it for when i need to as a Wireless AP "router"
    doing All My forums
    I use it for my CAD custom subwoofer enclosures.
    I use it for my CAD home speaker design's
    I use it for My Peachtree Accounting Software
    I use ti to maintain a 8TB "Divx" movie server
    I use ti to maintain a 7TB Music Server
    I use bryce 3d software on it
    I use with my DAZ 3D software.
    when its heare at the desk it has on it Most of the time 10 Hard drives.


    With No Pagefile !
    I never get low on ram or get a low memory warrning !
    Less hard drive fragmentation.
    Lower Cpu Kernel times
    No app studder as it writes to a hard drive swapfile
    Over all faster app load time
    Faster app Unload time
    and Less memory fragmentation
    Faster Startup times
    Faster Shutdown times

    I could go on but this is to show i dont just use the netbook just to check my Email.

    Disable Paging Executive WILL Improve the performance of your System 98/ME/2000/XP/Vista and Windows 7
    I do it with All the Pc's Here at the shop and Home.


    Disable Paging Executive:
    This simple registry modification will greatly improve performance on Windows 2000/XP/vista and Windows 7 computers, with RAM of 512MB or greater.

    http://www.techiecorner.com/23/win-xp-i ... le-paging/
    http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/120/t ... ndex5.html
    http://technohaven.blogspot.com/2005/10 ... -tips.html
    http://www.jvwinc.com/xp-tweak-mechanic-help.html
    http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/08/2 ... ive-tweak/
    http://www.pcworld.ca/news/column/b0cac ... 79/pg0.htm
    http://search.techrepublic.com.com/sear ... d+ram.html
    http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/3099




    In normal usage, XP pages sections from RAM memory to the hard drive. We can stop this happening and keep the data in RAM, resulting in improved performance. Note that only users with a large amount of RAM (256MB+) should use this setting. The setting we want to change to disable the 'Paging Executive', as it is called, is called DisablePagingExecutive. Changing the value of this key from 0 to 1 will de-activate memory paging.



    The "DisablePagingExecutive" entry in the registry prevents the kernel (ntoskrnl.exe, part of the core of the XP OS) from being rolled out to a pagefile on disk. The effect of this first part of this tweak is to cause XP to cache the Kernel in RAM instead of on disk, which makes XP more responsive to requests to the core component functions that are performed by ntoskrnl.exe.

    The "LargeSystemCache" registry entry forces XP to allocate up to all but 4MB of system memory, that is system memory, not available RAM, to the file system cache. The remaining system memory is used for disk caching, though XP will allocate more memory if it is needed. In rough terms, system memory is where XP holds programs and data that are currently in use. This allows applications and files to be cached in RAM rather than stored on disk.

    A modern hard disk will transfer sequential data to and from disk at up to 40MB per second, or even faster on some of the more expensive, faster-spinning drives, but the LargeSystemCache tweak means that effective transfer speeds of 1GB per second or more can be obtained, depending on the amount of RAM in your system and its operating speed. This is achieved because the LargeSystemCache modification causes the OS to store applications in RAM after reading them from disk. Having a large system cache means that XP is always using the optimum amount of RAM instead of leaving it untouched for future use that may or may not occur. Without this part of the tweak, 256MB or more of RAM in a typical workstation goes completely unused.

    if you try it You Will KNOW
    I need to say No more.
    :cool:
     
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    Between your endless bragging, your rather superficial knowledge, and your absolutely horrible use of caps and font colors, I really don't know which is worse. :)

    I'm not going to explain this to you in detail. However, I suggest you take notice of the following:
    * You really should study a bit on the theory of virtual memory and paging/swap files. The swap file concept is not an evil invention by Microsoft designed you make your PC slower.
    * As far as I could see, none of the links you supplied actually suggested to disable the swap file, just tuning how it works.
    * You might consider being more careful when trying to win an argument by showing off merits and experience. There is usually someone around who could bitchslap you if necessary :)
     
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    you must be a Child with the kind of "smack" you try to talk.

    How something works in "Theory" is not necessarily how it works in the Real world.

    I Dont Need to " brag" as you say .
    I just state things with Facts and information and with Examples that I can provide and prove from my day to day Real life experiences.

    If you feel "intimidated" or that I am trying to "insult " or otherwise demean you i dont know what to tell you other than its just how you take things and put them in your own mind .
    or that its your just insecure of yourself.
    ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
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    I Never sed that Microsoft did this to Degrade your system .
    Its just The Nature of the Beast.



    The Facts are There .
    common sense
    Tweaks are a "suggestion" and Information on things you can do to improve Hardware and or Software Performance!
    and as for the links:
    http://www.techiecorner.com/23/win-xp-i ... le-paging/
    http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/120/t ... ndex5.html

    http://www.jvwinc.com/xp-tweak-mechanic-help.html
    http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/08/2 ... ive-tweak/
    Tweak :
    http://education.yahoo.com/reference/di ... ntry/tweak
    tweak:
    http://www.sharpened.net/glossary/definition.php?tweak

    Tweak:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweak

    Info:
    http://education.yahoo.com/reference/di ... entry/info

    SLAP!

    You are dismissed............
     
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    Now you have basically stopped making sense. This leads nowhere.

    Thanks.
     
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    OMG
    LOL
     
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    Please stop changing the focus of discussions in peoples' threads.
     
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    LOL
    LOL
    READ!
    Please stop changing the focus of discussions in peoples' threads.

    LOL
    The Focus is on point !




    So how is this "changing the focus of discussions in peoples' threads."

    it looks like you are.
    so you and your 13 Posts need to
    stop with the "Thread Noise"
    The post are Facts And here to help people out .
     
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    I've been away for a couple of weeks. The "radioman" posts give me gas. Since he dumps on the Acer 751 in almost every thread, I was hoping he would permanently leave the building.

    Wonder why he continues his meaningless rants here?
     
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    By all means, upgrade with a 2 GB stick. I think I paid about $25 for mine. I then sold the 1 GB stick that came with the Acer for about $10 on craigslist, thus making the upgrade even cheaper.
     
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    Just Facts. :mrgreen:
     
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